Areas of study?

topic posted Sat, December 13, 2003 - 8:55 AM by  Jeremiah
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My interests lie in technology's influence on communication in all formats and the social / personal change that's drived through new forms of communication technology. Additionally, I'm interested in how religion and communication are intertwined... yes it's taboo, but i like it.
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Jeremiah
Minnesota
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  • Re: Areas of study?

    Sat, December 13, 2003 - 11:34 AM
    Heh heh, so you are a fan of McLuhan?
    I like Innis's ideas about communication and the formation of empires. I think Innis would have been most interested in the concept of "embedded reporters".
    My "area of study" isn't really refined yet. I'm dabbling in a bit of everything. Though education and communication is a focus, hopefully in the future [there's no sign of this issue coming up in any of my current classes and it doesn't seem to be a focus in my program. If I'm going to study this connection, it may have to be on my own time!].
    We have discussed the impact of technology on communication, however. It's a great topic and one that affects us all in one way or another. The very fact that we are here, communicating via the web on a message board, is something to be considered.
    Religion & communication...that's a new one for me, but I like it! Please do expound, I'm interested to hear what you have to say about that.
    --Melonie
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      Tue, March 22, 2005 - 3:52 PM
      Back up a second... I have no idea who Innis is, but I'm intruiged by the "embedded reporters" comment, as it pertains to the idea of communication/control/the cultivation of power/coersion... I gotta say that I was blown away by the general acceptance of these "embeds" as the end-all, be-all crux of independent journalism and government/military cooperation. Laughable. The obvious point is that the units were chosen, and their movements were dictated by the military... and a government at war could be called many things, not including "fair and balanced," espescially when issues like security are at stake. To approach non-information disclaimers like "national security" with a little skepticism is not unfounded, however I would have to admit that in a period of war [regardless of how I feel about the war(s)], the widespread dissemination of information might work against "our side". The assumption here is that anyone could be listening, including "them" who ever "they" happen to be. So this would mean that the dissemination of MIS-information would be a tactical move. If mis-information, or perhaps even vague information, is intended to be received through viable channels (otherwise, who else would buy it), then we "the people" would be just as succeptable to false information as anybody else would. To push the idea a little further, it would be advantageous for any government to propagate (key word here) misinformation to its own citizens in the event that it was leading the nation away from its own best interests, to get what they want, to see their means accomplished (even if they believe what they are doing is in the best interests of the citizenry)...
      whoa... I just had a vision of a Wells-Fargo van being pulled by a team of horses, all with blinders on... and the driver is piss-drunk.

      Thank you for the space to rant. Please respond if anyone has anything to say!
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        Tue, March 22, 2005 - 4:28 PM
        My areas of study have been sociology, psychology, history, and a lot of TV, I guess.

        And I should have said a wells-fargo wagon... perhaps a VW Vanagon, if one were so inclined to compromise...

        Blair
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          Sun, May 8, 2005 - 1:09 PM
          Innis had a concern with what he called 'monopolies of knowledge' as well. That is at least partly what I meant when I was referencing embedded reporters. A more historical example would be the restriction of literacy to only certain privileged members of society, or perhaps the restriction of access to texts such as the Bible that had immense social and political significance, but which ordinary people were unable to read. In some ways the contemporary media landscape represents a monopoly of knowledge.
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        Mon, March 28, 2005 - 10:28 AM
        OK, GOTTA check out Innis- he is a precursor / contemporary of McLuhan's, the other thinker people are referring to when they talk about 'the Toronto school' of communications studies.

        NUTSHELL: Innis' central concept is that media of communication operate along two fundemental axes to varying extents: spacially or temporally. A stone tablet or a statue communicates across time with excellent results (durability) but its not very portable. A scroll of papyrus travels much better, but is much more susceptible to destruction; on its own it is still only writing, but combined with the transportation medium of 'roads' by the Romans, you achieve a communication medium that eventually comes to be called "mail." Extrapolate the concept to more modern media - railroads, then telephone networks, then televion - they have huge reach across space, which provides a crucial means for the extension of power and - subsequently the creation of Empire.

        More on Innis here - www.mala.bc.ca/~media113/innis.htm
  • Re: Areas of study?

    Mon, December 29, 2003 - 4:50 AM
    I'm working on a degree in communications. Lately I've been very interested in identity performance in terms of gender and subcultural affiliations, how we choose to show these things off to the world.
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      Wed, December 31, 2003 - 9:59 AM
      Have you studied this in regards to the internet? For the first time, we can truly choose our presentation of self to others... its very interesting how people react to this freedom.
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        Thu, April 15, 2004 - 7:43 PM
        jer
        yes it is fascinating...thinking you are in control of your own destiny.
        self representation, blogs...

        well this said, you would probably like
        virtualanthropology.tribe.net
        i moderate that tribe and it was insane until recently. now all is quiet.

        also, i am in a few religious tribes. check out my roster and i will say they are quite interesting.

        and i have felt the glow of on-line conversion..... people are proselytizing on tribe.net for sure....

        best
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        Thu, April 22, 2004 - 10:35 AM
        Jeremiah:

        send me your email address and i'll send you some things i've written up on this. i'm mostly using goffman, giddens, habermas, but also mcluhan and to some extent deleuze, foucault, etc.
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      Fri, April 16, 2004 - 9:20 AM
      Hi Autumn,
      I just stumbled upon this thread for the first time. I'm also very interested in these topics. I'm wondering if you have any findings/thoughts you'd like to share?
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    Thu, April 22, 2004 - 10:43 AM
    i'd be interested on feedback from folks on a project i'm pursuing w/r/t technology and communication. it's book length though i'm not certain it'll ever be done. it's an attempt to argue that the fundamental shift occurring in society today, and resulting from our adoption of technologies that mediate communication/interaction, involves new proximities. That our relationship to place, distance, and time is changing, and consequently, how we relate to and spend time w/ each other is changing.

    I'd love feedback, criticisms, javelins, flaming arrows...

    www.gravity7.com/articles_research.html INTRO

    www.gravity7.com/articles_arguments.html MAIN ARGUMENTS
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      Fri, April 23, 2004 - 3:03 AM
      Great article!

      > Participation in communication networks encourages us to be
      > transitive to the steady stream and flow of communication moving
      > through networked participants. Being connected means more than
      > simply being online, or being plugged in. It means being in the
      > loop and serving as a transitive node in the network. We are
      > encouraged less to "speak" than to "repeat," less to converse
      > and more to pass along.
      This is exactly what I was thinking about when I proposed my Social Routing meme. Current technology concentrates on the "speak" part Social Routing is about about creating technology for theese "repeat" tasks.

      By the way isn't it similar to what happens in the scientific world where you are expected to support your words with citations?
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      Wed, May 5, 2004 - 11:18 AM
      Adrian,
      I was able to read most of your work up there and I was very much into it.
      I wish that you would publish this so that I could have a book that I could take on the train with me. I have trouble reading so much on the screen. Actually, one small suggestion: how about breaking up the 'main arguments' part into smaller sections - maybe titles that I can click on and open up the larger text?

      I am very interested in your work on the impact of technology on our relationships to time and place. It reminds me of David Harvey's notion of 'time-space compression' actually, I think it is exactly what he was talking about. I came across it in his 'The Condition of Postmodernity'
      The time-space compression thing has always stuck with me as something that I'm very sensative to. (I hate flying not out of fear, but a general discomfort with having my body travel so much distance in such a short period of time)

      What about technologies that do the opposite? The only example that I can think of right now are tread mills - you're walking for a period of time without traveling any distance. I wonder if there will ever be a demand for more technologies that have this kind of effect?
      (Sorry if this is too off-topic)
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      Tue, March 22, 2005 - 5:12 PM
      Very cool stuff, Adrian. I'm with Eli, though... it's hard to read off of a screen. The funny thing about reading your article was that I was reminded of a new catagory on Jeopardy!... I don't recall the name of it, but it was a catagory about acronyms used online or in text messages to express larger statements. For example, the answer would be something like "LOL", to be obviously followed by "What is 'laugh out loud,' Alex." I was able to get one or two of the questions, but as the category went on I had no idea what the hell they were talking about. As it turns out, I am "computer illiterate." But not in the sense that I don't know my way around a computer. Instead I am unfamiliar with some of the new sets of terminology that have emerged from the new medium.

      Nowadays, one must not only be "literate" with a computer (the interface), but also one must be indoctrinated into the new codification process of commonly understood terms in order to communicate effectively, or efficiently anyway. So it's another morphasis of language. I wouldn't call it slang... I don't know, maybe it could be. However, it's a modification of a well established set of cliches which have been compressed by us in order to communicate through this new medium. Furthermore, all of these codes don't necessarily have to have a counterpart in the "real" world. Laughing out loud, as it is repesented in the two dimensional world by its cryptic "LOL" form, is a take-off of the physical world. I'm sure that there is a language all it's own created out of this new technology which has no bearing outside of its digital means of expression. The connection I'm making is that, once again, we are using a familiar code applicable to our physical world (ASAP, for example), and we are stretching it accross into a new world where we are creating (and recreating) our concept of what is real, no matter how physically intangible something might seem to be. This might relate to your comments on the development of the telegraph. I once tried to serenade a woman with a song I wrote in Morse Code. You could say that the message was lost in translation.
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        Tue, March 22, 2005 - 5:16 PM
        I just read my joke at the end... I can be a ham, I guess. HA!
        ~;o)

        (the series of punctuation marks at the end of my message are intended to represent a squiggley, winky, smiley face... which you might assume I was making at the time of this transmission. By now, I am probably no longer smiling)
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        Fri, May 27, 2005 - 1:28 PM
        hey all,

        i just got done w/ a couple projects that had me really swamped. I hadnt even seen all of your comments! way cool!

        so i pdf'd a couple files to make them easier to read. they're both a couple years old. my latest project, an analysis of social software, should be done in a couple wks. it's kinda big (125 pages).

        files are in my iDisk, public, comm studies folder:

        homepage.mac.com/mihalis66/

        download away!

        cheers, and i'll be back soon to post some more.

        a
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        Mon, November 7, 2005 - 1:13 PM
        "The connection I'm making is that, once again, we are using a familiar code applicable to our physical world (ASAP, for example), and we are stretching it accross into a new world where we are creating (and recreating) our concept of what is real, no matter how physically intangible something might seem to be. This might relate to your comments on the development of the telegraph. I once tried to serenade a woman with a song I wrote in Morse Code. You could say that the message was lost in translation."

        Love it... Did she respond in semaphore?

        I remember being at a Powwow once and overhearing a guy turn to his friend and point at the Indian taco tents (there were many, all churning out smoke from their grills and griddles) and say: "look, must be a conference call."

        Was it Laurie Anderson who called technology our new campfire?

        metaphors work to some degree in translating between worlds. Where they cease working, though, is where they cease to be helpful. McLuhan himself wrote: "man's reach is beyond his grasp, or what's a metaphor."
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    Wed, March 23, 2005 - 10:51 AM
    new-media political communications, esp. at individual level (email, blogs)

    moving into historial inquiries - tracking specific topics through changes in policom infrastructure, discourse, rhetoric etc.

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